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Overall, I thought the event was fantastic. I know Karma had a lot of fun playing in the tournaments and in the event as a whole and will be back for Geex 2009. I thought the CSS tournament was run very smoothly. It seemed to wrap up rather quickly, and I thought Jer did a good job handling everything.

I was also impressed how well that Sureshot played De_season and how E.10 took down the reigning champions. I'm looking forward to the next competition at Geex.

The TF2 tournament was also a lot of fun. It was actually nice having two people on my team who knew what they were doing (Ber and RonNation). They just told us what to do and we did it. :-) I liked the change of the 8v8 format, but I also thought it had its challenges (see below).

Possible areas for improvement:
#1. I think once you start a tournament you should play until completion without any major breaks. When we made the TF2 finals we had to wait about 4-5 hours to play in our final match. Most of us were ready to leave a few hours before that, and were pushed back with the breaks for the costume contest, mountain dew, trackmania, etc. Anyway, I think this is relatively minor but I think the tournament players would appreciate this structure because some people are only staying for the tournaments.

#2. 8v8 vs 6v6 for tf2. I am a TF2 noob and I will openly admit it. The only time I play the game is for lans. Anyway, after talking with RonNation(TF2 Pro) no serious leagues play 8v8. Although, we had a fun time playing that format, and prepared accordingly, I think it has some challenges. 8v8 is more tactical while 6v6 is traditional. I also think some of the teams had a hard time fielding 8. I think for geex the TF2 tournament should move back to 6v6. Just my two cents.

Anyway, Great job on the LAN. I know they are a lot of work to coordinate, plan, setup, etc. I know Karma had a great time and we appreciate all the hard work you guys put in!!!!

Karma.Viper Wrote:
#1. I think once you start a tournament you should play until completion without any major breaks.


Breaks are needed in all tournaments to give teams proper time to rest in between big matches however the TF2 tournament was definitely pushed back far to long. In general the efficiency of matches was very low. I saw several instances where the teams that could have been playing each other in the lower brackets were just sitting around doing nothing. I am not upset about the matches being pushed back for trackmania. Because, like Karma was playing in CSS and TF2, other teams have players wanting to win in Trackmania. My problem is that there was a just a ridiculous gap of time in between that where the 2 - 45 minute lower bracket matches could have been played while Karma was awaiting the lower bracket winners. If we can knock out a tournament with more teams and a Bo3 finals then theres no reason Karma shouldn't have been ready to play the Grand Finals right as Trackmania concluded instead of waiting 3-4 more hours. Because like Viper said many players come to these for the tournaments only and cant stay til the wee hours of the morning. On any other Saturday I woulda been a happy ass camper about kicking back at the lan for a few hours but the halloween night of no sleep took its toll at about 10:30 haha. In future tournaments the "filler" matches should most definitely get taken care of right away though.


In all though TF2 was a freaking blast! Definitely needs to go to 6v6 to get rid of that "pub" feel but I had such a fun time!
I literally installed the game and joined my first match right as it launched lol. Thank you peno for everything you do that no one ever sees. The quiet guy behind the servers always has our problems taken care of and just want ya to know that things have never run smoother!

Thanks again powder for putting on another great show.... sumo costume = awesomeness on a whole new level.

Thanks for the feed back fellas. I just want to add that running exactly on schedule will never happen. A few things caused the delays this time around. The DotA admin was 2 hours late! lol, damn you KraZee! So when the first tournament is late, all other suffer. Also, it took us over an hour to get everyone that wanted to play in TF2 to actually join the tournament in ALPS for one reason or another. It was a new registration system that Einewton made, and it's much better than before, but needs a bit of tweaking. Usually we would have done TMNF at 6 pm, not 9, and we like to give everyone a chance to play that tournament because the game is unique and many people like it.

So yeah, we could be on point a bit better, but there will always be issues. I'm very happy to see so many familiar faces, the loyalty keeps us motivated to keep them going.
I definitely understand the pausing of tournaments to do a separate Trackmania tournament because alot of players try to squeeze in every last event they can there and things were slightly off schedule from the gunshot. These are your parties though pow and we are all there as your guests so feel free to give us whiny "csers" the middle finger haha Tongue I had a great time
Dudes of protocol42, I bow to your feet!

There are only a few days a year that I get to break all social obligations to have one day of "dont give a fuck fun!"

I can't sleep the few nights before a p42 because I get so psyched and I feel like I owe you guys alot that make this happen. Once again another excellent lan hosted by you dudes! I know alot of time and headache may go on behind the scenes but its all worth it I imagine.

Thanks for making my weekend! Cheers.

P.S.- Viper is bad and just wants something to complain about, STFU you baddie, take your prize money and your video card and GTFO! SNAP!!!!!

p0wd3r Wrote:
The DotA admin was 2 hours late! lol, damn you KraZee! So when the first tournament is late, all other suffer.


He's probably gonna try to blame this on me and in my defense I had no idea that,

a) he was admining
b) it was starting so early

so I maintain that it is in fact still all his fault.

Brisk Wrote:

p0wd3r Wrote:
The DotA admin was 2 hours late! lol, damn you KraZee! So when the first tournament is late, all other suffer.


He's probably gonna try to blame this on me and in my defense I had no idea that,

a) he was admining
b) it was starting so early

so I maintain that it is in fact still all his fault.

lol, no worries homie, shit happens, it's cool.

this is silly. but.... costume contest on stage with forum voting. parade the fools. throw tomatoes. i like a lot of the random contests. the chug, the bawls case hold, whatever. all the fun random non gamey stuff helps make it a great weekend for me. i need the breaks. keeps me going longer so i don't leave at seven in the morning.
Cool, I'll try to think of some other things.
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